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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby JayPak » Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:31 pm

Hurley has earned the right to decide his future, but I don’t see it as a good fit. No one’s getting LeBron to play defense. And I don’t see how Hurley coaching fits in with LeBron’s idea that he is going to play alongside or coach his son, who is not an NBA talent.

Hurley is a great college coach but much of his genius is player development and the rest is his elaborate offensive layers. I don’t see either of those skills giving him a big advantage in the NBA. He’s also a master at rallying a fan base but I don’t foresee the Laker fan base responding to him quite the same same.

If he does go to the NBA, a better fit would be somewhere where there are a lot of young, hungry, scrappy players.
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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby BellevueJay » Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:55 pm

Eye of the Jay wrote:What have you got to prove at UConn still? Think he’ll go in with the deck stacked against him in a loaded West. Gonna be up to the GM mostly, but I can’t see the Lakers making it to the Finals in the next 3-4 years, which will be the expectation.

I’d definitely do it if I were him though for the money alone. Plus, college landscape is getting harder and harder to recruit.


3-4 years is bold take. The way Free Agency/Trades are in the NBA, a middle of the pack team can jump to contender in one off-season, especially with good coaching. Not sure Hurley will be a good NBA coach, but with AD, LBJ it doesn't take a lot in FA/Trades to make the Lakers a legit threat in the NBA.
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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby BellevueJay » Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:00 pm

JayPak wrote:Hurley has earned the right to decide his future, but I don’t see it as a good fit. No one’s getting LeBron to play defense. And I don’t see how Hurley coaching fits in with LeBron’s idea that he is going to play alongside or coach his son, who is not an NBA talent.

Hurley is a great college coach but much of his genius is player development and the rest is his elaborate offensive layers. I don’t see either of those skills giving him a big advantage in the NBA. He’s also a master at rallying a fan base but I don’t foresee the Laker fan base responding to him quite the same same.

If he does go to the NBA, a better fit would be somewhere where there are a lot of young, hungry, scrappy players.


I agree, it's hard to imagine the lunch pail/blue collar shtick working with the Lakers and Lebron in LA. That attitude would work better in Philly, Brooklyn, NY but not LA. Lakers need a 'rockstar' coach that Lebron and AD will respect and know is in charge. Not sure Hurley fits that bill, and there are no coaches available that fit that bill either.

For Hurley, OKC comes to mind as a great fit, but they don't need a coach. Also, with all their upcoming picks coming, Utah would also be a good fit as they will have a lot of young talent to develop.
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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby bird_call » Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:47 pm

BellevueJay wrote:
3-4 years is bold take. The way Free Agency/Trades are in the NBA, a middle of the pack team can jump to contender in one off-season, especially with good coaching. Not sure Hurley will be a good NBA coach, but with AD, LBJ it doesn't take a lot in FA/Trades to make the Lakers a legit threat in the NBA.


Lakers have no assets to trade and LeBron is ancient and takes a lot of plays off now. They have $95M in salary to AD and LeBron, and their rotation guys are all pretty flawed - Rui, D'Angelo, Reaves, Vanderbilt, and Vincent. Hurley is a good coach but he can't won't have a talent advantage with the Lakers.
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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby SeattleJay » Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:02 am

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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby Chicagojayfan » Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:00 am

BellevueJay wrote:
JayPak wrote:Hurley has earned the right to decide his future, but I don’t see it as a good fit. No one’s getting LeBron to play defense. And I don’t see how Hurley coaching fits in with LeBron’s idea that he is going to play alongside or coach his son, who is not an NBA talent.

Hurley is a great college coach but much of his genius is player development and the rest is his elaborate offensive layers. I don’t see either of those skills giving him a big advantage in the NBA. He’s also a master at rallying a fan base but I don’t foresee the Laker fan base responding to him quite the same same.

If he does go to the NBA, a better fit would be somewhere where there are a lot of young, hungry, scrappy players.


I agree, it's hard to imagine the lunch pail/blue collar shtick working with the Lakers and Lebron in LA. That attitude would work better in Philly, Brooklyn, NY but not LA. Lakers need a 'rockstar' coach that Lebron and AD will respect and know is in charge. Not sure Hurley fits that bill, and there are no coaches available that fit that bill either.

For Hurley, OKC comes to mind as a great fit, but they don't need a coach. Also, with all their upcoming picks coming, Utah would also be a good fit as they will have a lot of young talent to develop.


I get the risks, but Hurley knows that the lunch pail/blue collar shtick only works if you have enough talent. While LA is an older team and not likely to buy into that, they will spend the money to get the talent (and the league will oblige, knowing they need a strong team there to make the money they want). Problem is that he may not have time for the team to get that talent before he shows enough success. But if the money's good enough...
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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby SeattleJay » Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:34 am

Chicagojayfan wrote:
BellevueJay wrote:
JayPak wrote:Hurley has earned the right to decide his future, but I don’t see it as a good fit. No one’s getting LeBron to play defense. And I don’t see how Hurley coaching fits in with LeBron’s idea that he is going to play alongside or coach his son, who is not an NBA talent.

Hurley is a great college coach but much of his genius is player development and the rest is his elaborate offensive layers. I don’t see either of those skills giving him a big advantage in the NBA. He’s also a master at rallying a fan base but I don’t foresee the Laker fan base responding to him quite the same same.

If he does go to the NBA, a better fit would be somewhere where there are a lot of young, hungry, scrappy players.


I agree, it's hard to imagine the lunch pail/blue collar shtick working with the Lakers and Lebron in LA. That attitude would work better in Philly, Brooklyn, NY but not LA. Lakers need a 'rockstar' coach that Lebron and AD will respect and know is in charge. Not sure Hurley fits that bill, and there are no coaches available that fit that bill either.

For Hurley, OKC comes to mind as a great fit, but they don't need a coach. Also, with all their upcoming picks coming, Utah would also be a good fit as they will have a lot of young talent to develop.


I get the risks, but Hurley knows that the lunch pail/blue collar shtick only works if you have enough talent. While LA is an older team and not likely to buy into that, they will spend the money to get the talent (and the league will oblige, knowing they need a strong team there to make the money they want). Problem is that he may not have time for the team to get that talent before he shows enough success. But if the money's good enough...


Respectfully, Mr Ballmer (owner of the Clippers) would probably disagree with the opinion that the Lakers need to be strong for the league to be successful.
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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby LJay » Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:28 pm

Incestuous transfers still seem odd to me.

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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby Django » Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:47 pm

LJay wrote:Incestuous transfers still seem odd to me.



Never heard Brett Favre to the Vikings being called incestuous. People with an axe to grind go and work for the competition since forever. In the NFL poaching players from your biggest rival is SOP.
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Re: Big East 2024-2025

Postby SeattleJay » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:15 pm

Hurley turns down the Lakers.
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