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Re: Coach Mac

Postby JayPacker » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:07 pm

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If he moves on, the entire CBB world will know it was because we refused to pony up for the coach with over a decade of tenure that has done what many thought impossible here.


Look I obviously appreciate what Mac has done, and we should back up a Brinks truck if needed, but this is not Coach K level of success we are talking about. I don't think anyone would have thought making a single Elite Eight in 12 seasons would be impossible for basically any program, let alone a 'high' mid-major or now just a high major.

Creighton is in a very advantageous situation as far as city size without an NBA team within 400 miles in the top tier of college basketball conferences. Sometimes you gotta breath a little bit.

Mac has said exactly the same things before as far as "if they will have me" when it comes to remaining in Omaha. Maybe it means something, maybe not. Nothing I do or say is gonna make a bit of difference, I do know that.


Yeah this is well reasoned and I do not disagree. However, I do think it is very easy for this fanbase to forget that 15 years ago we would have been playing Evansville on a Tuesday night and not receiving national media attention after beating the unanimous #1 team in the country. We have the opportunity for these types of games multiple times a year now. Sure any decent mid major can make the Elite 8 once in 15 years, but Creighton is a household name in College basketball now. None of that happens without Mac. And you are right, he is not Coach K, but Creighton is not Duke and there is no way he is demanding Coach K money.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby NUgradCUfan » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:08 pm

JayMob wrote:
Nothing I do or say is gonna make a bit of difference, I do know that.


If Mac left, Creighton fans would know it's Hendrickson and Blossom's fault.

If these guys are as pompous as people on the board have indicated, I can't see them doing the one thing that would tarnish the reputation and self-image they apparently love so much.

That's what doesn't line up to me. They can't be that dumb.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby JBD123 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:11 pm

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bluejayfan00 wrote:The fact that this has to even be talked about is insane to me.

Isn't this being "talked about" because Trilly Donovan threw his name out as a possibility for the Ohio State job? And isn't the rest of the "talk" just a bunch of escalating online chatter about "paying the man."

Mac signed a 4-year extension less than two years ago, plus whatever he had on his previous deal.
“He’s worked hard to get this deal done,” McDermott said of Blossom. “I’m forever indebted to him for that. It’s kind of a tough thing to have thrown on your plate the first year. And I recognize that that’s not easy, but he got it to the finish line.”


Some of these posts make it sound like we're in some sort of crisis at this very moment. Jesus, enjoy the win over UConn.


It isn’t just Trilly Donovan. The Athletic, ESPN, and Ohio State reporters have all listed him as a candidate. ESPN flat out said there is talk he’s willing to listen to other offers. This isn’t just a bunch of burner accounts. These are actual journalists, using their real names, working for real outlets with credibility, reporting this stuff.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby JayMob » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:12 pm

Mac put us in a good position to take advantage of opportunities. It could be debated forever what would have happened in some alternate timeline where we had some other coach or that coach had some other son. Thankfully it didn't happen that way.

Mac is still at the top of his game and gearing up for more success. So to be clear, he should be paid.

It's common for coaches to have a cycle where they think they just want to see a group of guys through their time in the program and then realize every 2-3 years that now they are just as in love with the new underclassmen. I don't think it's any kind of a sure thing that he will retire any time soon. If they keep finding success in March, that's another thing to chase.

However, if Mac gets raptured into the sky tomorrow, Creighton will be okay.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby LJay » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:15 pm

JBD123 wrote:
Wizard of Westroads wrote:
bluejayfan00 wrote:The fact that this has to even be talked about is insane to me.

Isn't this being "talked about" because Trilly Donovan threw his name out as a possibility for the Ohio State job? And isn't the rest of the "talk" just a bunch of escalating online chatter about "paying the man."

Mac signed a 4-year extension less than two years ago, plus whatever he had on his previous deal.
“He’s worked hard to get this deal done,” McDermott said of Blossom. “I’m forever indebted to him for that. It’s kind of a tough thing to have thrown on your plate the first year. And I recognize that that’s not easy, but he got it to the finish line.”


Some of these posts make it sound like we're in some sort of crisis at this very moment. Jesus, enjoy the win over UConn.


It isn’t just Trilly Donovan. The Athletic, ESPN, and Ohio State reporters have all listed him as a candidate. ESPN flat out said there is talk he’s willing to listen to other offers. This isn’t just a bunch of burner accounts. These are actual journalists, using their real names, working for real outlets with credibility, reporting this stuff.


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Re: Coach Mac

Postby NUgradCUfan » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:16 pm

JayMob wrote:However, if Mac gets raptured into the sky tomorrow, Creighton will be okay.


I won't renew if he's forced out because they're not willing to do everything in their power to pay him and keep him here. That's for damn sure. And I won't be the only one. Would be a very easy decision.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby bluejayfan00 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:24 pm

NUgradCUfan wrote:
JayMob wrote:However, if Mac gets raptured into the sky tomorrow, Creighton will be okay.


I won't renew if he's forced out because they're not willing to do everything in their power to pay him and keep him here. That's for damn sure. And I won't be the only one. Would be a very easy decision.

Yep. Weird comment. Money, donors, boosters, NIL would dry up pretty damn quick.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby Trifecta » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:32 pm

Look, I know this doesn't sit well with some people and the timing isn't great. But you can put your head in the sand and pretend like this isn't a real issue or acknowledge that there's smoke here.

Some of us that have been saying this for multiple years now are not burners. We are folks that have had accounts since the old parquet floor message board. I trust what I've heard on this and who it's come from. Maybe this is something we have to deal with year over year until Mac finally decides to retire, but there is definitely a "lack of alignment," or "unity of purpose" at Creighton right now.

There are certain people out there, recognizable and trusted names to many here,that could corroborate this... but I'm guessing they don't exactly for the kind of backlash that's happening right now. Or maybe they have a stance that we shouldn't be talking about this in season, which is fair I suppose. And if those people were the ones saying it instead of anonymous message board posters, then maybe you would treat this more seriously.

What's it going to take for people to at least admit there is SOME level of concern here? A hard hitting expose from the OWH?
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby Trifecta » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:38 pm

Also... When people are saying "pay him," I don't think anyone is saying give Mac that Coach K money. I don't even think we are saying give him that Georgetown Ed Cooley money. But I think he at least deserves the Providence Ed Cooley money.

If you are a top 25 coach you should be making top 25 money, and feel confident that you'll also have a competitive pool to pay your assistants and to maintain your facilities and recruiting efforts. I'm guessing that's all what Mac wants at this point. For some reason, he must not feel like he's getting that support. That's concerning to me and I would think it would be concerning to everyone.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby ictjay » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:40 pm

Cooley last year at Prov was $3.1M. Now $6m at Georgetown. Tang at KState is $3.3M. Mac is at $2.1M. Figured don’t include incentives.
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