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Re: NIL

Postby SDJay » Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:52 am

Jaybird wrote:
TrueBlueJay wrote:Figured this may fit under NIL. Johnnie’s reseating all of their fans for next season.

https://stormthepaint.com/st-johns-to-r ... tributions


"...has underwent..." Maybe the St. John's Journalism Dept should spend a little NIL money. They might find a prof or two who teach their reporters basic English gooder.

Watching the Jays @ DePaul, it occurred to me that if DeP reseated all their season ticketholders, it'd probably just mean that two guys would have to trade seats with each other.


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Re: NIL

Postby Dough Boy » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:16 am

omajay wrote:Blossom hosting a town hall next Thursday to discuss season ticket price changes for next season. I am curious what the changes will involve.


Do you have more info on this (time, location, etc)? I cannot find anything online.
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Re: NIL

Postby blueblood » Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:54 pm

Can someone explain to me like I am a second grader how NIL and revenue sharing works next year?
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Re: NIL

Postby JayFan95 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:31 pm

Schools can spend up to 20 mill a year to start. Football schools expected to.

Before NIL was outside of the “school”

Now it’s even more of a arms race and the SEC- Big 10 expected to spend a lot on bball
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Re: NIL

Postby TrueBlueJay » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:40 pm

JayFan95 wrote:Schools can spend up to 20 mill a year to start. Football schools expected to.

Before NIL was outside of the “school”

Now it’s even more of a arms race and the SEC- Big 10 expected to spend a lot on bball


My understanding was s players can still make NIL money, but things are supposed to be tighter. They can get paid for doing things to earn extra money, but it has to be realistic on how much they make. If you do a local car commercial, you can expect to make $xxx dollars. More about having standards for the work you do.
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Re: NIL

Postby blueblood » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:15 pm

Correct if you would my understanding of things. So would it be fair to say there is like a salary cap of around 22 million? If football schools on average are going to use 75% of that on football that leaves 5.5 million for the rest of their sports. The rough estimate that I am hearing and reading is that Creighton raises around 4 million in total. If we were able to raise this magical number that has been mentioned to above 5.5 million that would put us ahead in principal of the football schools. So then where does the discrepancy with the haves and the have nots come in? Wouldn’t we be right in the thick of it? Would the issue be that there is no way in hell right now we are going to raise 5.5 million? When I say 5.5 million is that purely in donations or does that include TV rights and ticket sales etc.?
How does this fit in with the overall athletic department budget? If a football school is able to have an athletic budget that is significantly larger than what a Creighton has in it athletic budget but is only able to spend 22 million on its NIL program do they out do a Creighton by their spending on facilities and the like?

Sorry, that’s a lot of questions
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Re: NIL

Postby JayFan95 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:26 pm

Schools can spend 22% of their revenue ( including ticket sales, TV deals, ect) with a cap of 20 mill to start.

NIL is still doing to be important in sure.

Since the SEC-Big 10 schools make so much freaking money ( at least some of them) they will spend more he max but hardly anyone else will from my understanding.

Ticket price Increases will hopefully help but still going to need a whale or two
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Re: NIL

Postby AttyAlum » Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:50 pm

TrueBlueJay wrote:
JayFan95 wrote:Schools can spend up to 20 mill a year to start. Football schools expected to.

Before NIL was outside of the “school”

Now it’s even more of a arms race and the SEC- Big 10 expected to spend a lot on bball


My understanding was s players can still make NIL money, but things are supposed to be tighter. They can get paid for doing things to earn extra money, but it has to be realistic on how much they make. If you do a local car commercial, you can expect to make $xxx dollars. More about having standards for the work you do.


I think this does a good job of describing the intent. I just don’t see how it can be enforced. How do you put a price on the fair market value of an endorsement? How does one say that an endorsement from Cooper Flagg and Fred King could even be in the same ball park price wise. Sounds like illegal restraint of trade to me.

(PS - how Fred doesn’t already have an endorsement from Big Fred’s boggles my mind).

Every time I hear something about putting caps on NIL, I’m reminded of the NCAA’s initial comments when NIL was approved - “schools won’t be able to use NIL for recruiting.” That worked well.
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Re: NIL

Postby WBR Tom » Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:07 am

If you can get past the ridiculous framing of the Big East as a mid-major, this piece from Ross Dellinger on Yahoo has some delicious on-the-record quotes. The generally accepted math according to his sources: most every school with a power conference football program will devote 70-80% of the $20.5m cap on football ($15-16m), 10% on men's hoops ($2-3m), and 10% split among everything else. Creighton's expected NIL budget is $5-6m according to his sources, more than double what most if not all big football schools can spend.

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-basket ... 05097.html

“In the Big East,” says Duke athletic director Nina King, “their basketball revenue-share portion will be a lot more than what those of us can do who have Division I power football programs.”

“People have raised the issue with me and they are raising it more frequently right now,” Greg Sankey said last week. “It’s something we are having conversations about at every meeting. I’m confident in our schools’ ability to compete, but it does raise a set of questions.”

“Big East schools next year can pay $6 million or more to their basketball team,” said Houston athletic director Eddie Nunez, “and that’s a game-changer.”

“At a place where football matters, we can’t justify $7-9 million to be shared with basketball,” KU athletic director Travis Goff said, “but we do think we have some innate advantages at Kansas. Coaching, culture, institutional brand, fan base, facilities, they will all move the needle.”

Ackerman, too, has heard about the “nervousness” within power leagues.

Her response? “We are flattered by the respect they seem to hold for the Big East and we will live up to that,” she deadpanned. “We have the ingredients to keep this going. We don’t have their revenue base. Football money goes a long way with other sports. But basketball is less expensive. We are going to have what we need to stay in the top tier of college basketball.”
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Re: NIL

Postby SeattleJay » Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:23 am

Great article, Tom. Thank you
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