2017 PG Tremont Waters (LSU Commit)

[#RollJays]

Wow Goodman just throwing shots

[taa71458]

[bluejayfan00]

Unreal. If Waters wants to play crappy competition and play for a coach who is a scumbag in the recruiting world, fair enough. Hell, even Goodman knows Stansbury is a dirtball. At least the schools Tugs is considering are bluebloods or close to it. (Besides DePaul)

[Angry Dan]

Did he ever visit ?

[vivid_dude]

Unreal. If Waters wants to play crappy competition and play for a coach who is a scumbag in the recruiting world, fair enough. Hell, even Goodman knows Stansbury is a dirtball. At least the schools Tugs is considering are bluebloods or close to it. (Besides DePaul)

Don't underestimate the value of winning a bunch of games that you will eventually have to forfeit due to NCAA violations.

[gtmoBlue]

If Tremont comes to Creighton, he's eligible and will play.

http://www.nationalletter.org/
http://www.nationalletter.org/documentL ... 016-17.pdf

NLI are binding letters between the NLI Organization, a student, and the member schools. Conferences have no say in the NLI dealings, outcomes, nor guidelines. A conference may not, just as member schools may not, add conditions onto a National Letter of Intent. Conferences are outsider entities, not members within the NLI structure.

A conference has no grounds legally to add conditions onto a student's NLI status, as the NLI Organization forbids any additions and conditions onto an NLI, both prior to signing and after, and to releases from NLI's..

from the NLI Guide:
" Release Request: A request for release must be initiated by the NLI signee by submitting the NLI Release Request online.

An institution may release a signee from his or her NLI obligation by selecting the “Complete Release” option on the NLI Release Request. It is the institution’s discretion to grant a release or not.

The NLI release is not the same as NCAA permission to contact (e.g., releases cannot include conditions to be released to specific institutions). "


This, my friends...is Information.

[WBR Tom]

I don't know if it's personal between Goodman and $tansbury, but I love all this shade he keeps throwing at him. Not every day you see a respected national reporter take this many shots at a coach and his program like this.

Here's what I don't get, though. WKU is already two over the scholarship limit -- they've got 15 guys currently on their roster, plus a walk-on who transferred from Chicago State, and they're still recruiting two more 2017 guys. That's wild. I mean, I know it's the nature of big-time hoops (though it's debatable whether Western Kentucky is truly big-time) that you always recruit and if a better player wants to commit, a lesser player has to go, but this next-level over recruiting.

[bluejayfan00]

Evan Daniels just tweeted WKU isn't recruiting Waters contrary to reports

[Bluejay Rey]

Evan Daniels just tweeted WKU isn't recruiting Waters contrary to reports

Well, USC didn't 'recruit' OJ Mayo either. Still he surprisingly committed and played there. Then there were NCAA sanctions. So there is that.

[gtmoBlue]

Plain n Simple: Waters will only sign a financial aid agreement, which is non-binding when he comes to CU. Should the BE illegally try to penalize him with sitting out a year, he can bail out to another institution or appeal to the NLI Organization. If he doesn't want to take a chance on our situation, he should go to UConn or other institution.

Regulations try to preemptively cover all the bases - impossible. There is always a way to circumvent, amend, cancel, or change a regulation. And they are generally limited by time. This is one of the many BE Regs that wasn't touched by the breakaway. Football is still included in the verbiage. It is a "broken" regulation that needs to be done away with or at the very least modernized to reflect today's Big East.

CU should still press for a conference decision AND ask for a separate ruling from the NLI Org.
Nice "hotdog" Rey...