Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:31 pm
Chicagojayfan wrote:mredle wrote:I completely understand peoples comments, everybody loves winning - me included. But as long as things have started down this path no sense in turning back now. A lot of people on this board really touted Coach Mac's post game talk after the loss to the Hoyas in the Big East tournament. Part of that talk focused on the growth of the player's that were graduating but part of it had to do with how special the program is. Are any of us asking questions about that right now?
If we went in and did mass turnover, yes, I would be asking questions. There's no indication that is happening right now. It's a rare year when nobody leaves (even for us), and multiple departures aren't all that uncommon in college ball in general.
Nor do all departures have to do with coaches forcing someone out -- guys want to play closer to home, don't like the city, want a different campus, decide they want a different system, don't like the competition, feel they want more minutes and not a backup role, etc., etc.,
Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:40 pm
mredle wrote:That's exactly what I'm saying, Mac is bringing in these players, and people are applauding this. And I think everyone would agree that I have certainly been supportive of Mac as coach. But I'm asking the questions, what does it say about the program and the culture and maybe us as well?
Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:44 pm
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Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:02 pm
R Jay wrote:Sounds like both JUCOs have headed home without committing.
Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:02 pm
fritzpointer wrote:Or 1 or 2 may be willing to walk on to have a better team. Go Jays!
Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:04 pm
Dough Boy wrote:R Jay wrote:Sounds like both JUCOs have headed home without committing.
I would be surprised if anyone publicly commits or transfers in before we announce any attrition regarding our current players.
Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:09 pm
Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:12 pm
Wizard of Westroads wrote:I'm always puzzled by the applauding of the recruitment of new guys when it's obvious that means somebody on the current roster has to go. In the absence of a reason such as homesickness, grades, failed drug tests, etc., this means the staff's evaluation of a current player was wrong and they weren't able to develop him when he got here. So now the same staff has evaluated a new player and we're excited?
I'm not ripping on the staff, recruiting is partly a crap shoot. I just don't get all the excitement here for something that obviously means pushing out a player, especially when we love the current culture. To each his own in the world of anonymous message board posting, I guess.
Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:15 pm
Bluejay Bilas wrote:Wizard of Westroads wrote:I'm always puzzled by the applauding of the recruitment of new guys when it's obvious that means somebody on the current roster has to go. In the absence of a reason such as homesickness, grades, failed drug tests, etc., this means the staff's evaluation of a current player was wrong and they weren't able to develop him when he got here. So now the same staff has evaluated a new player and we're excited?
I'm not ripping on the staff, recruiting is partly a crap shoot. I just don't get all the excitement here for something that obviously means pushing out a player, especially when we love the current culture. To each his own in the world of anonymous message board posting, I guess.
Generally, that's pretty accurate. But remember that 4 of the 13 current scholarship guys were MVC commits. The transition has created a unique situation. It was at least partially responsible for Johnson, Yates, Harris, Norton, and Talbert going elsewhere. If we end up with another MVC guy leaving, hard to blame staff evaluation for that.