2024-25 Season

[cujaysfan]

I hope he busts out because he has a lot to offer physically. Bouncy, length, pedigree, ability to hit 3s.

But he's just not giving anything and the reality is we need him to eat minutes because of our wing depth.

BE coaches are really going to attack him defensively and that will be a problem if kalk can't bail us out.

Green getting it going would be the best thing for us, where he can give 25-30+ minutes and Jackson and IT handle the 4.

Of course IT has his own limitations.

[UncleBillyJ]

It's possible that Miller starts at the SF spot and playing 14 minutes while Green backs him up playing 26 minutes.
You don't always start your best 5 guys. This usually happens with starting centers playing less than 14 minutes but it could happen with Miller.

Miller should not see the court again this season. Somehow regressed to being even worse, and he was only a spot up shooter prior. He can't even do that now.

[WBR Tom]

It's possible that Miller starts at the SF spot and playing 14 minutes while Green backs him up playing 26 minutes.
You don't always start your best 5 guys. This usually happens with starting centers playing less than 14 minutes but it could happen with Miller.

You may have me beat how long you have been a Jays fan. I have watched almost every game since 1978, either in person, televised, or available on tape/internet, missed very few. I can say with confidence that Miller this year is the worst starting player the Jays have ever had, and yes, I am including the woeful Rick Johnson teams. He is having an epically bad year this year 14% from three and even less overall, 12.5 %. He can’t guard, pass or dribble. He has no business being on the court for significant minutes this year. Let him be a practice player, some walk ons have been better, sad but true.

It's been a rough one for Miller so far.

Among players who’ve been on the floor for at least 20% of the team’s possessions (that's generally the cutoff between regular rotation guys and benchwarmers), no Bluejay in the Greg McDermott Era has had an effective field goal % of lower than 38.8% for the season — that was Devin Brooks in his senior season in 2014-15. And he's the only one below 40%.

Miller's eFG% right now is 20.4%.

Going back to 2001-02 when KenPom started tracking data, there's only three other players and four seasons worse than Brooks' 2014-15 line (Jeffrey Day in 2005-06, Andrew Bock in 2009-10, and Josh Dotzler's 2006-07 and 2007-08 seasons).

Obviously there's other ways to contribute and measure production beyond that metric, but yikes.

[#RollJays]

It's possible that Miller starts at the SF spot and playing 14 minutes while Green backs him up playing 26 minutes.
You don't always start your best 5 guys. This usually happens with starting centers playing less than 14 minutes but it could happen with Miller.

You may have me beat how long you have been a Jays fan. I have watched almost every game since 1978, either in person, televised, or available on tape/internet, missed very few. I can say with confidence that Miller this year is the worst starting player the Jays have ever had, and yes, I am including the woeful Rick Johnson teams. He is having an epically bad year this year 14% from three and even less overall, 12.5 %. He can’t guard, pass or dribble. He has no business being on the court for significant minutes this year. Let him be a practice player, some walk ons have been better, sad but true.

It's been a rough one for Miller so far.

Among players who’ve been on the floor for at least 20% of the team’s possessions (that's generally the cutoff between regular rotation guys and benchwarmers), no Bluejay in the Greg McDermott Era has had an effective field goal % of lower than 38.8% for the season — that was Devin Brooks in his senior season in 2014-15. And he's the only one below 40%.

Miller's eFG% right now is 20.4%.

Going back to 2001-02 when KenPom started tracking data, there's only three other players and four seasons worse than Brooks' 2014-15 line (Jeffrey Day in 2005-06, Andrew Bock in 2009-10, and Josh Dotzler's 2006-07 and 2007-08 seasons).

Obviously there's other ways to contribute and measure production beyond that metric, but yikes.

When you’re on the floor for that to be your main skill, it’s pretty negligent to continually roll him out there. Have to think Mac is close to moving on from him.

[cujaysfan]

It's possible that Miller starts at the SF spot and playing 14 minutes while Green backs him up playing 26 minutes.
You don't always start your best 5 guys. This usually happens with starting centers playing less than 14 minutes but it could happen with Miller.

You may have me beat how long you have been a Jays fan. I have watched almost every game since 1978, either in person, televised, or available on tape/internet, missed very few. I can say with confidence that Miller this year is the worst starting player the Jays have ever had, and yes, I am including the woeful Rick Johnson teams. He is having an epically bad year this year 14% from three and even less overall, 12.5 %. He can’t guard, pass or dribble. He has no business being on the court for significant minutes this year. Let him be a practice player, some walk ons have been better, sad but true.

It's been a rough one for Miller so far.

Among players who’ve been on the floor for at least 20% of the team’s possessions (that's generally the cutoff between regular rotation guys and benchwarmers), no Bluejay in the Greg McDermott Era has had an effective field goal % of lower than 38.8% for the season — that was Devin Brooks in his senior season in 2014-15. And he's the only one below 40%.

Miller's eFG% right now is 20.4%.

Going back to 2001-02 when KenPom started tracking data, there's only three other players and four seasons worse than Brooks' 2014-15 line (Jeffrey Day in 2005-06, Andrew Bock in 2009-10, and Josh Dotzler's 2006-07 and 2007-08 seasons).

Obviously there's other ways to contribute and measure production beyond that metric, but yikes.

Andrew Bock - 4* recruit who Perrault immediately anointed day 1 starter. Transferred to Pacific where he never did anything. A name rarely mention - probably for good reason.

[WBR Tom]

At the season's one-third point, I decided to turn the usual "Pregame Primer" deep dive analysis on the Jays instead of an opponent -- here's a player-by-player analysis of the stats and trends so far, showing who's over-performing and who's under-performing.

https://whiteandbluereview.com/whos-ove ... hird-mark/

[JacobPadilla]

Posted something along these lines in the Alabama game thread, but I would be surprised by a pared down, consistent rotation unless and until Žugić is eligible and up to speed. They just don't have the bodies or the well-rounded enough skill sets to do what they did last year.

Miller's minutes were really costly against Texas A&M and Alabama, but he also hit some really big shots against Kansas and shot 45% from 3 last season. He's put a lot of time in for the program and was ahead of both Green and Traudt last year. I'd be surprised if McDermott completely benched him. He's going to give him every opportunity to find his shot. They began training him at the 3 likely knowing it wouldn't be a seamless fit and would carry some growing pains; they determined he was the best fit for that role of the options they had. That being sia,d he really does need to turn the corner sometime soon or it's going to get really rough.

It wasn't too long ago that Green was giving them nothing. Now people want him playing close to starter's minutes. I'm sure he'll have some games coming up where his minutes are rough while Traudt or McAndrew or even Miller give the team more. None of those guys have been able to perform consistently, but they all offers skills the team can use. Mac just has to keep trying to push the right buttons, play the hot hand and hope a couple of those guys at least can solidify themselves before too long (or that Fedor gets his eligibility and solves the wing issue by himself).

It's easy to live in the moment as a fan and overreact to the last thing we see, but coaches don't operate that way.

[jayrock222]

I think people forget Miller broke his leg this summer. He missed a lot of development time. I certainly wouldn’t give up on him anytime soon.

[JayPharmAlum]

UMKC just went into Koch and beat the Shox by 10. UNLV had Dayton on the ropes, but gave up an and-1 in the final seconds to lose.

[section221jay]

It's possible that Miller starts at the SF spot and playing 14 minutes while Green backs him up playing 26 minutes.
You don't always start your best 5 guys. This usually happens with starting centers playing less than 14 minutes but it could happen with Miller.

You may have me beat how long you have been a Jays fan. I have watched almost every game since 1978, either in person, televised, or available on tape/internet, missed very few. I can say with confidence that Miller this year is the worst starting player the Jays have ever had, and yes, I am including the woeful Rick Johnson teams. He is having an epically bad year this year 14% from three and even less overall, 12.5 %. He can’t guard, pass or dribble. He has no business being on the court for significant minutes this year. Let him be a practice player, some walk ons have been better, sad but true.

Holy shit..what a stupid post.