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SeattleJay wrote:Best CU +-
Traudt +19
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Jaybird wrote:I will, to my dying day, maintain that PM (along with, maybe, saves in baseball) is the most meaningless stat in sports.
Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:26 pm
Realhoops wrote:I’m sure I’m wrong and I know he impacts in so many non-stat ways — but it sure feels like a lot of guys have been able to go straight at Kalk and score a ton of easy layups right at the rim this year.
Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:36 pm
Jaybird wrote:I will maintain that PM (along with, maybe, saves in baseball) is the most meaningless stat in sports, to my dying day. I'd even have it put on my tombstone, but it'd take up a lot of room.
Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:10 pm
Trifecta wrote:Jaybird wrote:I will maintain that PM (along with, maybe, saves in baseball) is the most meaningless stat in sports, to my dying day. I'd even have it put on my tombstone, but it'd take up a lot of room.
I'm sort of there with you. But I think "Per 40" stats are even worse. I'm not an "anti-analytics" guy but some people place WAY too much faith in some of these metrics. Per 40 is dumb because it completely lacks the context of why a guy is playing more/fewer minutes than others, the time and score when they are in the game, who else is on the court for both teams, etc. Usually, there are good reasons why some guys play 30 minutes and other guys play 10. If Fred King averages 5 PPG in 11 minutes, don't try to extrapolate that and tell me he'd be scoring 18 a game if he played 40 minutes. Situations are everything.
Until MY dying day, I will never forget the ridiculous conversations we had here regarding Will Artino and his per-40. I knew what my eyes told me and no amount of statistical chicanery was going to justify my opinion on his play