2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (South Carolina Commit)

[mredle]

How a basketball fan justifies and puts credence by following "predictor" websites that have as much accuracy as a Ouija board is baffling.
Whatever floats you're boat.
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It's information. That's all it is. The recruiting sites are made up of writers and "predictors" who tend to have more access to information. They do this shit for a living. I don't think anyone "relies" on the predictions, but rather enjoy seeing what the popular thinking is among such writers. Again, it's just information.

I respectfully disagree. It's not information. It's opinion. To the extent that they as individuals follow comments made by recruits they may have more information available to them. That doesn't mean that their opinion is any more accurate than anyone elses. First and foremost they are in the entertainment business. Their predictions are more like reading tea leaves than predicting the weather. There is a reason 247 is scoffed at by contributors to sites like this. I have a rule I like to call "Allison's Rule of Media Accuracy." It holds that "the accuracy of any media story is inversely proportional to your involvement in it." The predictions made on recruiting sites have less accuracy than a stock tip you might get from your broker. Your broker has access to a lot of information but they cannot time the market nor are they particularly prescient when it comes to specific stocks. Did you know that the best people on Wall Street tend to be promoted to mutual funds manager? Did you know that the vast majority of mutual funds managers don't invest in mutual funds? If they invest in the markets they tend to invest in index funds which tend to imitate individual markets (S&P, NYSE, etc) as a whole. As we have all seen, trying to read the minds of 17 and 18 year olds is neither reliable nor profitable.

[robry]

The good news is he didn't commit to Oregon while there. It would do some schools some good if he would let which schools that are not on his radar anymore so they can get a different date to the prom.

[vivid_dude]

You're really saying that a collection of 93 sports writers opining on where a recruit may go isn't information? Seriously?

IMO, that claim is factually erroneous. It's information. Use it as you personally deem fit. I find it interesting for the same reason I find bracketology interesting, or preseason polls, or in-season polls, or any other sports piece discussing Creighton-related recruits.

[mredle]

You're really saying that a collection of 93 sports writers opining on where a recruit may go isn't information? Seriously?

IMO, that claim is factually erroneous. It's information. Use it as you personally deem fit. I find it interesting for the same reason I find bracketology interesting, or preseason polls, or in-season polls, or any other sports piece discussing Creighton-related recruits.

All of your other examples have data to support them: W/L records, RPI etc. The only data here is the list the kid gives of the schools that have contacted him, where he goes for a visit and the schools he likes. I'm saying that 93 sports writers are probably the worst source of predictors about basketball. If you don't believe me just ask Greg Popovich. Hell, I'd give you more credence than I would give them. Except for Tim of course.

[Creigh_All_Day]

How a basketball fan justifies and puts credence by following "predictor" websites that have as much accuracy as a Ouija board is baffling.
Whatever floats you're boat.
Read more post less.

It's information. That's all it is. The recruiting sites are made up of writers and "predictors" who tend to have more access to information. They do this shit for a living. I don't think anyone "relies" on the predictions, but rather enjoy seeing what the popular thinking is among such writers. Again, it's just information.

I respectfully disagree. It's not information. It's opinion. To the extent that they as individuals follow comments made by recruits they may have more information available to them. That doesn't mean that their opinion is any more accurate than anyone elses. First and foremost they are in the entertainment business. Their predictions are more like reading tea leaves than predicting the weather. There is a reason 247 is scoffed at by contributors to sites like this. I have a rule I like to call "Allison's Rule of Media Accuracy." It holds that "the accuracy of any media story is inversely proportional to your involvement in it." The predictions made on recruiting sites have less accuracy than a stock tip you might get from your broker. Your broker has access to a lot of information but they cannot time the market nor are they particularly prescient when it comes to specific stocks. Did you know that the best people on Wall Street tend to be promoted to mutual funds manager? Did you know that the vast majority of mutual funds managers don't invest in mutual funds? If they invest in the markets they tend to invest in index funds which tend to imitate individual markets (S&P, NYSE, etc) as a whole. As we have all seen, trying to read the minds of 17 and 18 year olds is neither reliable nor profitable.

Obviously it is their opinion but they are basing their prediction on the information available. When Bridges and Trier announced they were coming back to college, Creighton shot up in the predictions. When DePaul hired LaLu's coach and Tugs' AAU coach, DePaul got on the board. When Tyger Campbell committed, DePaul took the lead. I think for some people who don't want to read every article or follow every Tweet, its not a bad place to look and see how things are stacking up at the time.

[hilltopalum]

Agree with that last post, I would say this, DePaul is in very good position for Tugs, however, if he was all set to play in Chicago for his former HS coach, and re-build that program, wouldn't he have committed with his HS buddy? Seems like if they were some sort of package to build momentum for the program they would have declared at the same time, or at least in Tugs' case, not been on a visit elsewhere. There is also rumblings DePaul could land Howard scorer and grad transfer James Daniels who'd provide a punch in Chicago next season and they also seem well position for 4/5 star Center Jermiah Tilmon. DePaul's making moves, with only one scholarship left it will be interesting to see how things shake out. But like Matt told me on the podcast, don't count Jays out.

[mredle]

Agree with that last post, I would say this, DePaul is in very good position for Tugs, however, if he was all set to play in Chicago for his former HS coach, and re-build that program, wouldn't he have committed with his HS buddy? Seems like if they were some sort of package to build momentum for the program they would have declared at the same time, or at least in Tugs' case, not been on a visit elsewhere. There is also rumblings DePaul could land Howard scorer and grad transfer James Daniels who'd provide a punch in Chicago next season and they also seem well position for 4/5 star Center Jermiah Tilmon. DePaul's making moves, with only one scholarship left it will be interesting to see how things shake out. But like Matt told me on the podcast, don't count Jays out.

This post has as much insight, maybe more, as you get from the "predictor" sites.

[Realhoops]

Agree with that last post, I would say this, DePaul is in very good position for Tugs, however, if he was all set to play in Chicago for his former HS coach, and re-build that program, wouldn't he have committed with his HS buddy? Seems like if they were some sort of package to build momentum for the program they would have declared at the same time, or at least in Tugs' case, not been on a visit elsewhere. There is also rumblings DePaul could land Howard scorer and grad transfer James Daniels who'd provide a punch in Chicago next season and they also seem well position for 4/5 star Center Jermiah Tilmon. DePaul's making moves, with only one scholarship left it will be interesting to see how things shake out. But like Matt told me on the podcast, don't count Jays out.

This post has as much insight, maybe more, as you get from the "predictor" sites.

Not all information is created equal. That doesn't make information you deem less valuable or reliable not information, though. It's just less valuable information.

[gtmoBlue]

...and weather forecasting is still done with tea leaves. Those on screen maps and charts are fake news.

According to espn, the pro scouts are telling Rawle Alkins to go back to school.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... urn-school
"He needs to go back to school," every single NBA executive interviewed said. One added: "I love how hard he plays, but he doesn't really have a position."

May get a bit crowded down in TucSon.

[cu8493]

7 days and counting down. If he doesn't pull the trigger by next Wednesday, then we all get to wait until he actually enrolls in a school. Will give us something to talk about this summer I guess, if the reports that CU players won't participate in summer league at OSA this year.