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St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:34 pm
by RVB
#15 Creighton heads to Madison Square Garden for St. John’s game

https://gocreighton.com/news/2024/2/23/ ... -tilt.aspx

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:44 pm
by DC_JAY
Not a must-win, but another great chance to nab a Quad 1 win on the road. Happy they are playing in MSG, as the crowd won't be as intense, and it's nice to get a game on that court before the BET.

This is a classic trap game setup. Hope the Jays avoid an upset here.

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:35 pm
by Realhoops
DC_JAY wrote:Not a must-win, but another great chance to nab a Quad 1 win on the road. Happy they are playing in MSG, as the crowd won't be as intense, and it's nice to get a game on that court before the BET.

This is a classic trap game setup. Hope the Jays avoid an upset here.


While I agree that it's not a "must win" in the true, deep, absolute sense, in my view it absolute is a must win in the sense that this team needs to keep things moving in the right direction and keep momentum going and not let up and lose to a team that is by all metrics not going to sniff the tournament. Coming off last week, the Jays have a legitimate shot at getting back into the top 10, moving into a projected top 3 seed, and having a shot at the 2 seed in New York. Turn around and blow this one and you take two steps backward on all of that. Add in that the Jays roster, at least in the starting 5, should basically be better at every single position and they can't afford to lose it.

Absolutely perfect timing for the fellas to go get a little practice at MSG.

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:53 am
by WBR Tom
Here’s the Pregame Primer for tomorrow over on WBR:

https://whiteandbluereview.com/pregame- ... -st-johns/

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:25 am
by SeattleJay
We shot poorly in the first game at home against SJU. Let’s hope we are beyond that.

RDJ!

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:31 am
by YankeesJunkie
DC_JAY wrote:Not a must-win, but another great chance to nab a Quad 1 win on the road. Happy they are playing in MSG, as the crowd won't be as intense, and it's nice to get a game on that court before the BET.

This is a classic trap game setup. Hope the Jays avoid an upset here.


Not a must win, but they if they do not win today, they could easily drop either or both of Seton Hall and Marquette. If Creighton wins out they or 3 of 4 they are in that #2/#3 and won't have to reface UCONN in the semis and probably lock up a three seed.

If Creighton can find a way to win out they should be in a good position for a #2 seed, but if they start dropping games they could slide back to a #5 seed.

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:05 am
by jays911
Any idea why the line dropped so much? Down to Jays -2.5.

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:06 am
by Chicagojayfan
YankeesJunkie wrote:
DC_JAY wrote:Not a must-win, but another great chance to nab a Quad 1 win on the road. Happy they are playing in MSG, as the crowd won't be as intense, and it's nice to get a game on that court before the BET.

This is a classic trap game setup. Hope the Jays avoid an upset here.


Not a must win, but they if they do not win today, they could easily drop either or both of Seton Hall and Marquette. If Creighton wins out they or 3 of 4 they are in that #2/#3 and won't have to reface UCONN in the semis and probably lock up a three seed.

If Creighton can find a way to win out they should be in a good position for a #2 seed, but if they start dropping games they could slide back to a #5 seed.


Good analysis, but I look at this as the kind of game where the team can prove that the improvement we've seen and the UConn game wasn't a fluke, but that this team has taken a step forward and can go on the road against a good team in a hostile environment and pick up a win

Best teams in the BE are finding a way to win on the road, I'm hopeful we'll do just that today as well

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:24 am
by DC_JAY
Chicagojayfan wrote:
YankeesJunkie wrote:
DC_JAY wrote:Not a must-win, but another great chance to nab a Quad 1 win on the road. Happy they are playing in MSG, as the crowd won't be as intense, and it's nice to get a game on that court before the BET.

This is a classic trap game setup. Hope the Jays avoid an upset here.


Not a must win, but they if they do not win today, they could easily drop either or both of Seton Hall and Marquette. If Creighton wins out they or 3 of 4 they are in that #2/#3 and won't have to reface UCONN in the semis and probably lock up a three seed.

If Creighton can find a way to win out they should be in a good position for a #2 seed, but if they start dropping games they could slide back to a #5 seed.


Good analysis, but I look at this as the kind of game where the team can prove that the improvement we've seen and the UConn game wasn't a fluke, but that this team has taken a step forward and can go on the road against a good team in a hostile environment and pick up a win

Best teams in the BE are finding a way to win on the road, I'm hopeful we'll do just that today as well


Completely agree. The Jays have been cooking lately, and even in their two most recent losses they still shot quite well. A great opportunity to underscore that they are a different team since that loss to UConn.

St. John's season is on the line today, though, and it's clear that Pitino didn't lose his team following his criticism.

Re: St. John’s Game Thread II

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:46 am
by TrueBlueJay
jays911 wrote:Any idea why the line dropped so much? Down to Jays -2.5.


I show it started at 2.5 - briefly went to 3.5 and then dropped back to 2.5. Not uncommon.