Big East 2024-2025

[AttyAlum]

Big East getting stapled to a football conference becomes a necessity when they wall themselves off from the rest of Division 1 which is likely in the near-ish future. ACC makes the most sense in that event. But it's also very possible the Big 10 and SEC just leave others hanging.

If you aren't a core member of those two conferences there is no security right now for anyone.

I’ll be interest how this all is going to effect basketball which as been dominated by not the big 10 or sec (4 titles in 25 years) where as it’s the opposite in football (18/25)

You’re right, but it’s probably no surprise that the rise of the SEC in hoops came during the NIL era.

The biggest problem with the Big East is actually kind of like the MVC when we bolted - there is a huge number of underfunded teams that are going to have a hard time moving forward. Seton Hall’s lack of NIL is well documented. Butler can’t be far behind. DePaul has stunk forever. I question what Providence has and all the transfers don’t bode well. Georgetown still has a long way back, esp if their center leaves for the NBA. That’s a lot of dead weight that tanks the metrics of everyone else.

The thing about the ACC is that I’m not sure they are much better. Even a school like FSU has the head coach getting sued by former players because they couldn’t fulfill NIL promises. Miami’s well hyped NIL machine looks to have bankrupted, leading to their best coach ever having to resign midseason. Outside of Duke and Louisville who will always have deep NIL funds, I don’t know about the rest of that group. And yes, the football schools will jump if they ever get the chance.

[bluejayfan2054]

The ACC already has 17 schools. Only way a merger happens is if the conferences agree to exclude poor performing schools which would be tough given football consequences and TV deals already in place.

[BenningtonBluejay]

Big East getting stapled to a football conference becomes a necessity when they wall themselves off from the rest of Division 1 which is likely in the near-ish future. ACC makes the most sense in that event. But it's also very possible the Big 10 and SEC just leave others hanging.

If you aren't a core member of those two conferences there is no security right now for anyone.

I’ll be interest how this all is going to effect basketball which as been dominated by not the big 10 or sec (4 titles in 25 years) where as it’s the opposite in football (18/25)

You’re right, but it’s probably no surprise that the rise of the SEC in hoops came during the NIL era.

The biggest problem with the Big East is actually kind of like the MVC when we bolted - there is a huge number of underfunded teams that are going to have a hard time moving forward. Seton Hall’s lack of NIL is well documented. Butler can’t be far behind. DePaul has stunk forever. I question what Providence has and all the transfers don’t bode well. Georgetown still has a long way back, esp if their center leaves for the NBA. That’s a lot of dead weight that tanks the metrics of everyone else.

The thing about the ACC is that I’m not sure they are much better. Even a school like FSU has the head coach getting sued by former players because they couldn’t fulfill NIL promises. Miami’s well hyped NIL machine looks to have bankrupted, leading to their best coach ever having to resign midseason. Outside of Duke and Louisville who will always have deep NIL funds, I don’t know about the rest of that group. And yes, the football schools will jump if they ever get the chance.

I’d exclude GT, they are a name, have been improving, and are not going to be left behind with NIL

[creightonotter]

Sounds like Sean Miller to Texas.

[omajay]

Miller to Texas is a big loss for X and the Big East. Quality coach. We are really lucky to have Mac for so long.

[JayPak]

Hard blow for X and yes, we are lucky to have Mac.
Miller was well compensated and beloved at Xavier. This was about the ability for him to have enough NIL to cherry pick players. Another sign that the BE is becoming a have-not, as is everyone except the wealthiest SEC, B1G, B12.

[slaw]

Return of the Mack at X?

[Duke1Agn]

Not great for the Big East, but I have no idea what sort of NIL situation Xavier had. I imagine it is nowhere near what UConn, St. John’s, Villanova, Marquette or even Creighton has.

Interesting that Miller beats Texas with Xavier and then a week later is the new Texas coach.

[AttyAlum]

I’d always heard that Xavier had pretty good support. I expect they have a pretty good NIL, but it’s probably pennies compared to TX.

Xavier hired Miller when nobody would touch him after all the shenanigans at Arizona. No loyalty.

[LJay]

I’d always heard that Xavier had pretty good support. I expect they have a pretty good NIL, but it’s probably pennies compared to TX.

Xavier hired Miller when nobody would touch him after all the shenanigans at Arizona. No loyalty.

^^^ This. His career was about done. I don’t understand the concept of having more than enough cash to change your family tree forever and jumping for more cash.

I think some of these coaches just think the Big East can’t survive like ol Curly Stooge said about Marquette when he bailed years ago when the reformed league was young.