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Re: Future Schedules

Postby LJay » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:40 pm

So Rothstein posted months ago we were getting Iowa in LV. Just went back to my post with a tweet copy and the tweet has been deleted.

I wonder which parties were involved In reconfiguring that tournament?
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Re: Future Schedules

Postby Eye of the Jay » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:54 am

Non-con schedule announced and no chatter around here.....

https://gocreighton.com/news/2019/8/25/ ... edule.aspx

Again 12 D1 non-con opponents, which I don't necessarily like, but looking at the schedule I don't know where you'd squeeze another in. The problem I see with this is that it'll be tough to get to 20 wins if we perform similarly to last year. Say we go 9-3 in non-con; then we would need to go 11-7 in a stacked Big East, which will be very tough to do. I know that 20 wins means nothing, but getting separation from .500 always looks aesthetically pleasing to the committee.

Must wins:
Kennesaw St. - 343
Louisiana Tech - 123
Cal Poly - 333
North Florida - 181
Oral Roberts - 297
UT-Rio Grande - 185

UT-Rio Grande and Louisiana Tech are nice additions by the staff with NET rankings at 185 and 123 last year. Have to make sure to avoid the upset there though. Two 325+ NET teams isn't too bad as long as Oral Roberts improves a little and everyone else stays around the same.

Should win:
San Diego St. (N) - 116
Nebraska - 51

Nebby should go down with many departures, and SD St. may sneak into Top 100. We should win both of these games if we're playing up to our level and focused.

Toss ups:
@ Michigan 10
Oklahoma 32
@ Arizona St. 62
Texas Tech/Iowa (N) 7/40

I would guess there will be regression with Michigan and Texas Tech losing substantial pieces. Oklahoma is usually tough, but hopefully we can pull that one out at home. It would be good to steal another one away from home as well.

If we can go 10-2 against this schedule it will definitely be a success. 9-3 and we have work to do in the Big East, and 8-4 would be a big letdown with who we have returning. The 6 games against mid-majors at home need to be taken care of, and the Nebby and SDSU games hopefully can be won with sound coaching and defense. Hopefully, we can grab one of those road games to really help our NET and profile come March.

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Re: Future Schedules

Postby Jet915 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:57 am

To have a successful nonconference, I really think we need to win 2 of these 4 (and win the rest of course):

Toss ups:
@ Michigan 10
Oklahoma 32
@ Arizona St. 62
Texas Tech/Iowa (N) 7/40

10-2 and we are in a good spot, any worse, and we need to do work in a tough Big East.
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Re: Future Schedules

Postby Eye of the Jay » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:20 pm

Average (mean) NET ranking this year: 146
Average (mean) NET ranking last year: 116

That is also not taking into consideration the high likelihood that Michigan and Texas Tech will regress from their Top 10 rankings. The extra 300+ NET teams will slightly hurt, but as we saw w/ NC St. and Ohio St. last year blowing bad teams out at home can also help/not hurt NET.

This year:
8 home games 2 away games 2 neutral games
Last year:
7 home games 2 away games 3 neutral games

That being said, our non-con SOS last year was 36 with an overall SOS of 28 with a down (relatively) Big East. We also went 8-4 last year against that difficult schedule, so I'd say 9-3 with this schedule would be on par, and 10-2 with some convincing wins would give us a better resume going into conference play than last year.
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Re: Future Schedules

Postby wildjays » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:37 pm

Eye of the Jay wrote:Average (mean) NET ranking this year: 146
Average (mean) NET ranking last year: 116

That is also not taking into consideration the high likelihood that Michigan and Texas Tech will regress from their Top 10 rankings. The extra 300+ NET teams will slightly hurt, but as we saw w/ NC St. and Ohio St. last year blowing bad teams out at home can also help/not hurt NET.

This year:
8 home games 2 away games 2 neutral games
Last year:
7 home games 2 away games 3 neutral games

That being said, our non-con SOS last year was 36 with an overall SOS of 28 with a down (relatively) Big East. We also went 8-4 last year against that difficult schedule, so I'd say 9-3 with this schedule would be on par, and 10-2 with some convincing wins would give us a better resume going into conference play than last year.


I think originally the Jays were looking to put in another game on 11/8, but couldn't get anyone. First weekend at the start of the season with no game is somewhat disappointing, but the rest of the weekends leading up to Big East play are pretty well filled with games which is nice. The main opponents were known, so probably why not much buzz.

Not a surprise that Oklahoma is coming in right as the students go on holiday break.

Hopefully the Nebraska game gets a night slot on Saturday. It will definitely be packed (or it should after what happened last year).

As a side note, with three years left of the Gavitt Games after this season, I bet the Jays only play in 1 of the 3 remaining years after playing in the first 5. The way the schedules are going to be the next few years, it makes sense with all Big East teams playing a minimum of 6 games in the Gavitt Games, with the Jays 6th game in the 2021-22 season.
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Re: Future Schedules

Postby Helmzy » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:10 pm

Playing Midland on December 28
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Re: Future Schedules

Postby Eye of the Jay » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:20 pm

Adding NAIA Midlands doesn’t really do anything for us. Would rather have a 200ish Div 1 school. Gotta go 9-3 and 11-7 or 10-2 and 10-8 in conference and non-con which isn’t gonna be an easy task.

And yes I know 20 wins is by far an outdated item, but I’d rather not have to sweat the bubble and choke giving up offensive rebounds to X with our tourney lives on the line this year. Easy Div 1 wins that separate us from that .500 number would help. Not saying saturate the schedule with them but an additional one to this years schedule woulda been nice.

Point is moot next year as our 22-game Big East schedule should cancel this out if we go to 11-game non-con.
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Re: Future Schedules

Postby mannygakou » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:03 am

Eye of the Jay wrote:Adding NAIA Midlands doesn’t really do anything for us. Would rather have a 200ish Div 1 school. Gotta go 9-3 and 11-7 or 10-2 and 10-8 in conference and non-con which isn’t gonna be an easy task.

And yes I know 20 wins is by far an outdated item, but I’d rather not have to sweat the bubble and choke giving up offensive rebounds to X with our tourney lives on the line this year. Easy Div 1 wins that separate us from that .500 number would help. Not saying saturate the schedule with them but an additional one to this years schedule woulda been nice.

Point is moot next year as our 22-game Big East schedule should cancel this out if we go to 11-game non-con.


Let's take a guess at which Big East schools the Jays playing thrice next year
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Re: Future Schedules

Postby JayPharmAlum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:59 am

mannygakou wrote:
Eye of the Jay wrote:Adding NAIA Midlands doesn’t really do anything for us. Would rather have a 200ish Div 1 school. Gotta go 9-3 and 11-7 or 10-2 and 10-8 in conference and non-con which isn’t gonna be an easy task.

And yes I know 20 wins is by far an outdated item, but I’d rather not have to sweat the bubble and choke giving up offensive rebounds to X with our tourney lives on the line this year. Easy Div 1 wins that separate us from that .500 number would help. Not saying saturate the schedule with them but an additional one to this years schedule woulda been nice.

Point is moot next year as our 22-game Big East schedule should cancel this out if we go to 11-game non-con.


Let's take a guess at which Big East schools the Jays playing thrice next year

Why would we play a 22 game conference schedule? If we play the other ten teams each twice, that’s 20 games.
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Re: Future Schedules

Postby mannygakou » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:07 am

JayPharmAlum wrote:
mannygakou wrote:
Eye of the Jay wrote:Adding NAIA Midlands doesn’t really do anything for us. Would rather have a 200ish Div 1 school. Gotta go 9-3 and 11-7 or 10-2 and 10-8 in conference and non-con which isn’t gonna be an easy task.

And yes I know 20 wins is by far an outdated item, but I’d rather not have to sweat the bubble and choke giving up offensive rebounds to X with our tourney lives on the line this year. Easy Div 1 wins that separate us from that .500 number would help. Not saying saturate the schedule with them but an additional one to this years schedule woulda been nice.

Point is moot next year as our 22-game Big East schedule should cancel this out if we go to 11-game non-con.


Let's take a guess at which Big East schools the Jays playing thrice next year

Why would we play a 22 game conference schedule? If we play the other ten teams each twice, that’s 20 games.


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