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Re: 2020 Class

Postby bluejayb13 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 am

Venturajay wrote:Does anyone know if we have any shot at Xaiver Foster


We do not
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Re: 2020 Class

Postby Jet915 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:10 am

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North Carolina’s Roy Williams and his staff, Miami’s Jim Larranaga and his staff, along with Iowa State, Creighton, and Cal, will be in today for four-star senior Kerwin Walton, a source told
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Re: 2020 Class

Postby Chicagojayfan » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:14 am

Jet915 wrote:Jake
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North Carolina’s Roy Williams and his staff, Miami’s Jim Larranaga and his staff, along with Iowa State, Creighton, and Cal, will be in today for four-star senior Kerwin Walton, a source told
@Stockrisers
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We were showing interest early apparently. Minnesota and Creighton were the first high major offers.

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Re: 2020 Class

Postby gtmoBlue » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:15 am

"This is our time. This is our great opportunity... Standing strong - for a great, great future." - Fr Timothy Lannon, SJ
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Re: 2020 Class

Postby CURx » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:34 am

I know it can be frustrating but I have always viewed recruiting as strictly a numbers game and I just don't see the point in getting worked up about these kids. Think of it this way. There are five Power 5 conferences and the Big East. Throw in the best 10 schools from the AAC/A10/and a head scratcher (why did a kid go there school?) and you are looking at 85 schools (give or take as you can argue pecking order of those 85 schools and who is truly elite, etc.). At minimum they are trying to fill an average of 2-3 scholarships each year so lets say 2.5 per school. That is 215 players to fill those rosters. Of course you know the 10-15 blue bloods that fill all of their roster spots with top 150 talent so they take 25-30 off the list. That means 180-190 kids to fill the 70-75 other schools rosters if you want to fully accept player rankings. At that point it is a crap shoot. You need certain players to fill spots, our gaping big man issue for example, but so does Purdue, Stanford, and 15 other schools on the list. You don't get Kalkbrenner then you move down the list and you are getting into the 150+ or 200+ particularly with bigs who clearly don't grow on trees. That's why you get what you can, you throw rankings aside and you bring kids in to coach and develop and hope that when you do hit gold like Kalkbrenner (Patton, Khyri), your coaching on top of the natural athleticism and ability takes you to the next level.
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Re: 2020 Class

Postby gtmoBlue » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:56 pm

CURx wrote: That means 180-190 kids to fill the 70-75 other schools rosters if you want to fully accept player rankings. At that point it is a crap shoot. You need certain players to fill spots, our gaping big man issue for example, but so does Purdue, Stanford, and 15 other schools on the list. You don't get Kalkbrenner then you move down the list and you are getting into the 150+ or 200+ particularly with bigs who clearly don't grow on trees. That's why you get what you can, you throw rankings aside and you bring kids in to coach and develop and hope that when you do hit gold like Kalkbrenner (Patton, Khyri), your coaching on top of the natural athleticism and ability takes you to the next level.


good take CURx. This is why I was a bit surprised that CU turned away from Matt Nicholson and Powell. There was no guarantee that we'd get Kalkbrenner. But the Jays let both slide to the wayside (Nicholson to NWern, Powell to UH), gambling on the Kalkbrenner commit, though the odds were against us. Getting 2 bigs would have been our best scenario - even if it meant development for Nicholson or Powell. We were fortunate to pickup Ryan - the new Sultan of Swat - so this discussion in moot. However, a ballsy move on Mac's part.
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Re: 2020 Class

Postby Jet915 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:22 pm

I guess if we still go hard at Powell or Nicholson and they commit, does that dimish our chances with Kalkbrenner? Calculated move that paid off this time.
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Re: 2020 Class

Postby Chicagojayfan » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:10 am

gtmoBlue wrote:
CURx wrote: That means 180-190 kids to fill the 70-75 other schools rosters if you want to fully accept player rankings. At that point it is a crap shoot. You need certain players to fill spots, our gaping big man issue for example, but so does Purdue, Stanford, and 15 other schools on the list. You don't get Kalkbrenner then you move down the list and you are getting into the 150+ or 200+ particularly with bigs who clearly don't grow on trees. That's why you get what you can, you throw rankings aside and you bring kids in to coach and develop and hope that when you do hit gold like Kalkbrenner (Patton, Khyri), your coaching on top of the natural athleticism and ability takes you to the next level.


good take CURx. This is why I was a bit surprised that CU turned away from Matt Nicholson and Powell. There was no guarantee that we'd get Kalkbrenner. But the Jays let both slide to the wayside (Nicholson to NWern, Powell to UH), gambling on the Kalkbrenner commit, though the odds were against us. Getting 2 bigs would have been our best scenario - even if it meant development for Nicholson or Powell. We were fortunate to pickup Ryan - the new Sultan of Swat - so this discussion in moot. However, a ballsy move on Mac's part.


People want us to move the program up in the world, and I'm not convinced that either Nicholson or Powell would have moved us upwards. Slightly different situation with Murrell (local kid and a lot of very complementary skills for our system).

In any case, I think Kalkbrenner was the type of guy we needed to keep ourselves in the top 25 for the next few years. With our ability to recruit guards and wings, a big like him keeps the defenses honest as he can play offense in a way that doesn't limit the way we run our system, and he solidifies our own defense in a huge way.

A gamble by the coaches, but the right one if we want to play at the upper end of the BE for the next few years
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Re: 2020 Class

Postby omajay » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:07 am

Are we interested in Latrell Wrightsell, Jr. of Omaha Central? The below article says CU is "interested." He certainly has some range and is supposedly a very good defender. His dad was a decent player and really good defender for Tony Barone.

https://scoopmantv.com/2019/08/19/lj-wr ... l-options/
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Re: 2020 Class

Postby White&BlueDude » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:17 am

He's a 2020 PG when we already are stocked there with Z and Mitchell. Add to it that his offer list is exclusively low/mid-major offers and I don't think there's much stock in him coming to CU, unless we offered a walk-on spot.

I think he'll end up at Green Bay or South Dakota State.
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